About
the Dutch conflict between Islam and
Christianity
Hi I am René
Meijer a psychologist from the Netherlands
and I am ashamed about these people from my
country upsetting the world with blaming
Islam. And I am equally disturbed about
threats from the side of some factions of
Islam against us, and thus also against me.
So I want to take responsibiliy and answer to
this problem. Let me tell you something about
this conflict between these two religions
from a scientific, behavioral point of
view.
Religions are about
God. Both Islam and Christianity say there is
one God. So let's agree with them on that
point. If there is one God and these
religions are in conflict, then there is
evidently a conflict of authority in speaking
about this one God. With the two fighting
evidently that authority is missing which
says: 'I am the one God and you now all shut
up and listen'. So this God must speak up
somehow to solve the conflict. God speaks
through representatives, isn't it? So let me
as a behavioral scientist now represent this
one God for you in quoting from His leaders
myself and tell these two fighting parties
something about behaving in peace. So
consider me a Muslim as well as a Christian
for the time being.
I say, where two are
fighting, two are guilty. Because, living for
the one God there is peace with obedience.
Yes? That is the belief. Okay. Let's keep
that in mind. The two are evidently not in
peace with all the threats and the actual war
fronts they make in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Christians want to conquer the world with
democracy and Islam wants to achieve that by
the Jihad. That is their belief: spread the
message and he who opposes is the sinner, or
the enemy or a possible terrorist or else an
oppressor. That is clear. But why are those
two missions in conflict? They can coexist
and cooperate in their missions. Not that I
believe that any religion or political party
will ever win and rule for the rest of
eternity. But okay. Why not cooperate? Or are
they maybe with that mission statement of
their belief in reality disobedient to their
own original leaders and scriptures? God
wouldn't fight God with his own missions
would He?
So the two religions
must be doing something wrong; both must be
disobedient to the one God that brings peace
to the world by obedience. Isn't it? That
being so we can say: the pot is blaming the
kettle, the two are accusing each other of
their own disobedience. Now that is clear. So
what is the error of disobedience they have
in common, or what is, what science calls,
the constant error? Psychology says
that if you cannot find your own error, you
blame someone else for it. That is called
projection. We can see that happening all the
time with our ignorance and we don't want to
see this escalate, certainly not
internationally. Lets agree about it and
therefore discuss this.
Furthermore says
behavioral science that we are conditioned
beings and that, when we have a conflct of
authority, this, with respect to the notion
of our conditiong, refers to the very
authority of this conditioning. Conditioning
happens being systematic with time. So what
matters then is the question: Who rules the
time? Who is the boss? Who sets the agenda,
who fills the calendar? Most political
meetings deal with this problem, where to
meet when to meet and when to do it again.
Isn't it? But is that time system of ours the
obedience to our one God in this case? Well,
I don't think so. Apparently both Islam and
Christianity are missing the point of oneness
here. Apparently we suffer from some original
sin. Sounds familiar, not? So, we can safely
say that the authority of the timesystem is
in conflict with these religions, that is a
sure thing.
So let's take the
argument one step further. The two religions
not aware of the constant error of a failing
timesystem are projecting: they blame each
other. True awareness of guilt would render
this impossible. Thus is following this
argument the unconscious state of both the
religions proven. Religiously being concious
there wouldn't be such a lack of penance with
both sides blamin the other. Would behavioral
science make a better mind with this maybe?
Lets give it a try. Constant error in science
means that whatever you try you always get
wrong results because an underlying error has
not been detected. Christianity finding fault
with Islam and Islam finding fault with
Christianity is such a case: whatever they
try, the confict continues. The common error
is not found. And we now know that they are
projecting their own ignorance in
disobedience. Isn't it? Yes.
Then let's go to the
next point. On what issue is each of the
parties disobedient? Should they all be
vegetarians? Maybe. Should they all be
celibate? Possibly. Should they give up on
doing it for the money? Could also be true.
But it is not to psychology to say that. The
question for behavioral science is: in what
way would the timesystem of their
conditionings fail to make peace as it should
with the one God they have? Let's take a look
at what the leaders have to say. In science I
may represent a point of view if I correctly
refer and not claim the control for myself.
So... Jesus said: do it on earth as in heaven
in the Lord's prayer. Point One: Christianity
doesn't really do this setting the clock and
the calendar to the money and not to nature.
Christians definitely do it with standard
time not completely on earth as it is in
heaven. The dates and months are leaped, but
not the days and the weeks. There we have the
disobedience we talked about, and it concerns
the conditioning time system. And now Islam:
Mohammed said: do the pure sun and the pure
moon.
Point two is that,
even though Muslims respect the sun with
their prayer times, and the moon with their
fasting for a month, outside of that, outside
the mosk with the cresent moon on top so to
say, they defy the profet submitting
themselves to standardtime settlements the
same way as Christians do. They just as well
submit for their daily activities to this
reductionist and materialistic concept of
commercial time management which by the
politicians is called a pragmatic necessity.
What they really say then is: warfare and its
madness f collective selfdestruction is
pragmatic. It comes handy, it might make a
buck. ... And listen carefully: both the
parties are saying this. Interesting not?
They have the same
clock and the same calendar. They have mean
time and zone time, and together with the
gregorian calendar with its linear weeks they
both defy the commands of their lordships.
This they have in common, that is sure. The
week is not leaped, the day is not leaped. Is
that the pure natural time of Allah to the
words of the profet? Is that to the heavenly
pattern of the Father as Jesus advised us to
pray? I don't think so. The moon is
forgotten, and the sun scorches the planet
dry with commercial energy philosophies which
need to be overhauled by sustainable energy
technologies. Christianity by means of Pope
Gregory abandoned the respect for the lunar
order, the so-called Ides and Kalends, for
the monasterial rule at the end of the middle
ages. Islam has the cresent moon as its
symbol, but prefers nevertheless the linear
weeks for civil purposes, material puposes by
which they defy the natural order of the
moon. Iraq is a timezone island... The time
zone introduced in America they follow
against the natural order of the sundial and
at the same time they fight America blaming
them for the original sin. It that a maturity
of understandung? I don't think
so.
So in conclusion:
both religions defy the order of the natural
time of the sun and moon. Right? Both do it
the same way isn't it? Christianity and Islam
have standard time in common, isn't it? So
they have in common that which is in defiance
of their own original leaders. Standard time
is the devil, to speak in their own words.
Not the religiosness itself, but the
projection and the unconscious state of
ignorance of the people involved is the
problem. The cultures blame each other for
being godless and barabaric. So, does that
ring a bell with you personally? The common
cultural defiance of the natural order of
time is the error in common, it is a constant
error in terms of behavioral science, and
whatever the religions do without refuting
standard time is futile. Right? Let
behavioral science take care of overhaulimg
these societal institutions that are so
powerful and dangerous. And now you as a
listener, personally take some real time,
some natural time, and do so being reguarly
with the sun and the moon. And then think
about what you can do about this
international conflict yourself. Better the
world and begin with yourselves! Yes?
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